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» pink101 - Whose Freedom

In response to Whose Freedom posted by BrianTubbs:
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What is it that you know about George Lakoff that makes you say that?
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» Brian Tubbs - Lakoff

In response to Whose Freedom posted by pink101:

I'll give Lakoff kudos for understanding the significance of FRAMING in public discourse. The problem is that he (and you) often accuse only conservatives of framing, and ignore the fact that liberals and progressives do it as well. Everyone frames. The key is to be honest and open about it.

But Lakoff sees government as being much, much more involved in actively providing for the welfare of the people than most of our Founders would be comfortable with. I don't want to label Lakoff a "socialist," but he does tend that way.

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» pink101 - Lakoff

In response to Lakoff posted by BrianTubbs:
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What is it that you know about George Lakoff that makes you say that?
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Are you familiar with his work?
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» pink101 - Noetics

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The operative word regarding Cognitive Science as a school of study is noetics.
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Here's a link where you can find endless discussions: http://psych.psy.uq.oz.au/CogPsych/Noeti...
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» Brian Tubbs - Lakoff

In response to Lakoff posted by pink101:

Vaguely familiar with his work overall, but I've come across quite a few quotes from him in different things. And I've in the last couple of days looked up more info on him. I know that Lakoff doesn't like labels, but are you going to deny that he's progressive and socialistic?

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» pink101 - Lakoff

In response to Lakoff posted by BrianTubbs:
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It's not what he is so much as it is what he teaches that is important.
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His doctorate is in the science of thinking and that seems like a pretty cold kind of thing without ideologies. Do you know what I'm saying?
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Freedom is something you have that is a part of your property rights.
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» pink101 - Progressive and Socialistic

In response to Lakoff posted by BrianTubbs:
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"...but are you going to deny that he's progressive and socialistic?"
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I don't know about socialistic unless you mean that he believes people who benefit from our American democracy have a responsibility to pay taxes according to their share and ability. The more you take the more you owe? As far as progressive is concerned, what's to deny on that? Are you a progressive thinker or are you the alternative which would be regressive, right? Or do you just want to stick with what progress has brought so far and, so, consider that to be conservative?
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I'm a progressive and I have strong socialistic sensitivities--I believe in health care rights, social security, paying taxes, public highways, urban sewers and fresh water supplies, nationalized energy, public works projects, free eduction through doctoral programs for specified professions, and other community benefits.
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» PhiloProf - Whose Freedom

In response to Whose Freedom posted by pink101:

Pink,

I have the book coming to my local library and will give a response once I have done my homework.

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» pink101 - Whose Freedom

In response to Whose Freedom posted by PhiloProf:
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Sounds good to me.
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I'm interested in what others will think.
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» pink101 - Whose Freedom

In response to Whose Freedom posted by PhiloProf:

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Lakos asks nearly every possible question in regards to freedom. And, he tries to answer every one. I've gone through the first five chapters at least twice and the first three several times.
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I particularly like the way he answers the question regarding a definition of Conservativism and Liberalism in America.
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He uses the metaphor of family as it is so much a part of what we, in America, think about our nation and our relationships with each other. We think of ourselves as being the children and of government as being the parent in a certain sense and this is the area in which he makes his definitions. Conservatives follow the line of the Strict Father while Liberals follow the line of the nurturant Parent. Neither side is at the extreme and most Americans are somewhere in the middle exhibiting characteristics of both sides.
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I think that is a good way of looking at the issues involved. I think most Aouth and North Americans think along these lines--from Canada to Chili.
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